I understand the frustrations very well, but what I see is not a big enough demand even for 28" backs so big companies will prob not be willing to go down to a 26" anytime soon. As you did point out, heavier breasts need tighter bands than small breasts do.
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Without a bra my back really hurts. I can't do anything else than walking slowly, not even carefully climbing a chair to get some cereals from the top shelf in the kitchen. At that point there really isnt any choice. However, I've been looking for some non-wire bras with good support to let my body rest from the wires. Have anyone got any good tips?
Kelly-- I know, it makes no sense to me either. I see women and girls with rib cages smaller than me fairly frequently, too- they must need 22 or 20 bands? Miss Outlier-- That place looks interesting!
I will look into them. I'm not sure they have any representatives in my area, though. Joanna-- Thanks, I have tried them but they didn't really work out for me. Alexa-- It feels like, on smaller band sizes, they should put some sort of additional padding around the underwires, since many women under a 30 are going to have pretty bony ribcages! It was actually her that told me that she simply can't alter them small enough to truly fit me right.
As for no bra I agree with you, but also with Helena: I would be uncomfortable either way. I don't understand it either! My Effuniak bras do ride up like in the photo, although not quite as much on the tightest hook right away.
They are better than other things I have tried, and I can tell that the bands are less stretchy than some bands, but they really are too big. I wonder if women in Poland wear bras looser than here? I did talk to another woman, from England I think, who was 27" and tried the 65, and found it too big. The 60 was definitely too big for me, though. I wish somebody could explain! Hmm I'm wondering if it could be the fact that you are heavy breasted compared to the size of your ribcage, this may 'weigh down' on the overall bra which means the support is not good, even if the band size may be right.
Whereas women with smaller ribcages but also smaller breasts wouldn't have this problem as their breasts do not weigh as much. I have the same oroblem my under breast is 23,5 and my breast a little abowe 13 7nches iver tgat. But the problem is not the variom but the designm they tend to imagine that smakker ribbcaged girls women have wide front, ie, use same underwiring fir a 32 , 34, and above band bra, and fir those under 30 inces.
A same volume breast on a snaker rib cage needs kess bas3 and more projection. And they tend to forget that. BraCraft- Thanks, I am trying to get somebody to help me measure so I can make sure my measurements are accurate, and then I will send them to you! Helena-- I totally agree!
Please do write to some companies like Bravissimo and such and ask them for smaller sizes. The more of us that do that, the more likely they are to believe there's a demand for smaller sizes! For soft bras, I would recommend looking at Bravissimo- they have a special section for soft cup bras and they have 3 different styles to choose from, all of which come in a 28GG.
They have the best selection of soft bras in that size that I have found. I normally go for 28H, sometimes 28GG, too. Ptasia, about the CM matching the inches, that's another thing I don't understand. It would make much more sense that way! But it would be a lot simpler to understand if it matched and if you could just take your CM measurement!
She thought the need had already been met by the market, but based on your experience, it sounds like that's not the case. However, you're smart to target the large manufacturers. The cost barriers are super high for an individual to enter this field. Perhaps eventually, after proving there was a market, the designer would be bought out by a bigger company who could then provide more styles at lower prices.
The whole point with the European system is that you should take your cm measurement. That's what the standard says. Then you get the same size as if you take your inch measurement and add a couple of inches. The problem is that even though a 70 band is made to fit a 70 cm ribcage, it just doesn't, because we need more support than that. I usually suggest people to skip the advised based on what the size represent and go for a band cm smaller than their measurement, which makes it quite equal to their inch measurment And, I will start another email round.
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator. Brittany, I think the average Polish woman in the street does wear a loose band - too loose, I'm afraid, but then the average woman in the street won't be wearing an Ewa Michalak bra ;. Do you remember what model you took? Was it only 1 bra? I do recall also that the cotton bras from summer were a bit looser and I heard that 2 brand new models from the last few weeks are also not so tight. As to others, all the opinions I heard confirm they are very tight.
On the other hand, they are made from materials which adapt to the body very well. The bras stay put - in the right size - but they don't try to kill you.
A bra that is too tight can cause lots of damage to the skin and can rub your skin sore, because it also moves on your ribcage, but usually down - looking for a narrower place, so to speak I had that with two bras I bought in London - they were tight, but I thought they'd stretch - they didn't and I had welts on my skin from the underwires.
The same happened to my friend, who was put in a 30ff Panache Harmony bra by a brafitter, while measuring tightly around 75cm in the underbust. She suffered extreme discomfort, as the band was too tight. As to the sizing: Also I think that if a 30'' is too loose for me, it's a rubbish bra, as by principle I refuse to wear 28''. Darlene-- That sounds great! If your friend wanted to go into the super-small-back market, she could have a monopoly, at least at first!
If she wants, she could email me- I'd love to talk about it, or help her with ideas and such. I hadn't heard of that lady! Helena- Well, that's the thing, in most UK brands you just take your inch measurement, more or less. So it seems like the equivalent CM size ought to fit the same woman, if that makes sense Thanks for sending out emails. I agree, when they stop at a smaller cup size in a 28 band than in higher bands, it really bothers me!
If anything, it should be the reverse, where a 32 goes up to a G and then 30 and 28 each go one size higher. Lillefix-- I have added a subscribe by email option to my blog, at your request, but I'm not sure what you mean about subscribing to comments One was made out of faux denim, one was a dark purple with black lace, and one had pink and black swirls and pink lace.
My Effuniak bras definitely did not fit the way you are describing! I could easily do them on the last hook right away. Do you know those styles?
Do you think I just got unlucky with them? Lillefix-- I'm not sure if such a thing is available, either, but I'll do some research. If you want to send me an email brittany at thinandcurvy dot com with your preferred email address, I can add you to a list that I can make in blogger's settings that will email you whenever there is a new comment. I think it's designed for admins and such, but I'd be happy to add you to it if that's what you would like.
I'm sorry to hear Ewa Michalak didn't work out for you! I'd heard that they ran extremely small as well; someone on another site said they had a Unless their ribcages are much more triangular than mine, I suspect they have similar ribcage measurements and need bands for the bras to truly fit. Most 28s do ride up on me, though I think I'd be fine with a Some of the 28 bands from Marks and Spencer UK run very small - they can be too tight for me - but the sizing's inconsistent and they don't go higher than 28G.
I agree with your point about extra padding on the underwires! I've started wearing my bras over camisoles because the underwires and side boning were pressing against my ribs.
That's the same brand I wore throughout high school, college and my 20's, except the brand as I knew it was called "Cameo". With a little more googling, I found this: It's not pretty, but if you can find and fit this bra, it is great for support and lift. If they are open to sharing that information with you, you could then hire that person to create a pattern for you.
It would be very expensive. As you became aware of other women who need your band size, you could ask those women if they want to chip in to have the bra pattern graded to fit them as well. Eventually, if enough women need it, you could try to find a sewing contractor who will do small production runs.
I know two bras you mentioned - i. If they weren't, either they were mislabelled, or maybe you need sth tighter but your measurements really don't suggest it! Because another thing came to my mind, i.
I remembered my friend in a changing room recently. I then saw that she'd put it on the tightest hooks and wasn't comfortable. When I changed her into the first hooks, she asked: If you can't do the tightest hooks up, I'd say the bra is too tight. When I first got fitted however, I thought that the tighter the better - that's how I ended up with those two extremely tight Gorgeous by Debenhams bras I mentioned earlier, which left welts on my skin - I shudder at the very memory.
No other bra left me in such pain well, apart from silicone irritation from strapless bras Another thing is the band - if it moves down, this usually means it's too tight strapless bras can often do that ; if the whole band moves up, it's too loose. Darlene- I've heard of Jenunique, but I heard that their bands run big so the 26 is really a 28 anyway, so I never tried them. I might consider it though if you think that's not true! I'm not sure I could do that with Dirty Dolls right now, but it might be an interesting idea for the future.
Ptasia- That's ok, I didn't mind waiting! I wonder if you are right about those being mislabeled. My bras tend to ride up in front, like over my breasts a little bit, and that rubbing is what hurts me. I can easily pull those Effuniak bras inches away from my back when they are hooked up, if that helps. They really don't feel different from my 28 bras. It's hard to tell when nobody really makes my size, though! Ptasia, I just realized something! The 3rd Effuniak bra pink and black always fit a little bit better.
I thought it was just because it had 3 hooks instead of 2 mysterious since it's supposedly the same size as the others? But thinking about what you said, I just went and tried it on again, on the loosest hook, and tightened the straps properly and such, and I actually do think it's a different size from the others! It is a bigger difference in snugness than I at first thought.
It fits me quite well, actually. I feel stupid now for not realizing this sooner! This is why I really needed to be able to try bras that fit on myself instead of always fitting other people! I want to try Ewa Michalak again now, but what size do I get?
I can't return them if I choose wrong! If so, would the 65's have 2 hooks and the 60's 3? I can't go visit Polish forums with people that know about this, so I'm so confused! Was it this bra: If the first, I found info from a girl who ordered 65 30 GG and complained about the three hooks. I suppose they may have been added from some cup G?
On the other hand, I found also info on a purple 80D which HAD three hooks, which makes everything even more unclear; here's the link, you can scroll down the page for pics: If it's the heart print bra I can't find a pic online , my mother in law tried it on a shop we went to together. She tried 80e or dd I think normally she's a 32f in Panache etc and the back had one 3 x 3 row of hooks PLUS a sewn in extender - so in total 6 x 3 hooks!
I think I'd do this: I'd write to Ewa, describe your problem, maybe add pics of you in the bras? Ask if they may have been mislabelled. I would still probably say a 60 shd be ok, but one like that black-pink that fits.
Since it's going to be made upon special order anyway, ask about the number of hooks, if they can make it for you with 3 x 3 - this also means that the band is wider and more supportive in general, I think? For the record, I am currently a 28G, although my bust is shrinking rapidly since I started weaning my son.
I was a 28E pre-pregnancy, so I know a little bit of both sides of the story, so to speak. I thought I might chip in on Ewa Michalak back sizes. It is still a young company and I dare to say that Ewa improves the construction with each model. I tried on some of her bras when they still existed only as samples and were made exclusively to order.
They were indeed extremely tight and not in a comfortable way. Ewa has always been following internet bra-related fora very carefully, and us, Polish bramaniacs, seem to have thought at the beginning of the bra enlightment a few years back that the tighter the band, the better.
Accordingly, Ewa's bras were started out very tight, but were gradually made looser, when the feedback of more "mass" consumers started pouring in. This would explain why they have an opinion of extremely tight bras, even though they no longer are.
There were also a few hiccups like the bra that Ptasia's mom tried on - they turned out to be SO tight, that after the initial reviews the rest of the batch was sold with extenders sewn in.
With that said, I must admit I am surprised that the denim one and the aubergine one are looser than the pink and black one. They are indeed older and following the logic they should be tighter. Other than what Ptasia already mentioned bras happened to be mislabelled on several occasions , I can only think of one thing - the quality of materials was not impressive at the beginning.
I've tried on three of Ewa's bras since the start of the company and I can honestly say, that the bra was better than the one I ordered in , but not as good as the one ; the last one I tried on was this http: The picture so doesn't do it justice. It was very well made, from nice quality fabrics and the fit was just stunning sadly, the boob shrinkage had already started by then and I had to return it.
It was a 30F, the band was just right for my current 26" and the cup was rather generous I'd say a size bigger. This website is an invaluable source of information about the fit of Ewa Michalak bras: I realise you don't read Polish, but already the first few lines could be very helpful, if you know a few phrases: I realise it's not easy to browse without knowing Polish, but maybe Google translation can help ; Eg.
I see that a couple of girls with a similar cup size to yours, but 26" backs, wear band size 30 or even 32 in Ewa Michalak see here: Based on this, I think 28 should indeed be enough for you although I think Ewa could also make you a 26, should you ever decide to give it a go. Pfffff I hope that helped a bit: Luckily my son is a good sleeper, so I could finish this comment in peace.
Take care and please report back if you decide to give Ewa Michalak another try! I forgot to add one thing - Ewa Michalak bras are still thought to be quite much tighter than the standard, which I confirm. In many cases this simple rule proves right for EM bras: If your back measures 24", which is roughly 61 cm, then you should try band 60 It certainly works for me: My own theory about it based on discussions with Ewa on bra-related fora, following the Polish version of "How To Look Good Naked" where she fitted underwear, etc.
If the label says the same band size that what they've been wearing so far and close to their centimetre measurement, they may be easier convinced that it's the right one for them. It would be interesting to hear from Ewa whether I got this one right ;. I talked to the owner of missfituk. But there is not even enough demand for the 28" bras so she is expanding to 30 and I understand the frustrations very well, but what I see is not a big enough demand even for 28" backs so big companies will prob not be willing to go down to a 26" anytime soon.
What I ment was, bravissimo has told me on the phone, that most of their customers are a 32 or a 34 back. Thus, manufacturers probably aren't aware of the full scope of the demand for sub bands. When I first started to wear bras I wore 34A or AA, and whilst there's no way my ribcage was anything close to 34", I didn't find the bras uncomfortable because I just didn't need the support of a tighter band. It seems as if the larger a person's breasts are, the more they will need a band size that's close to their ribcage measurement.
I'm not trying to argue that smaller-busted people don't need bras that fit, but I'd imagine they are less likely to encounter back pain, shoulder grooves, etc. I used to wear a 34AA from the kids section, and it's harder for us smaller busted ladies to tell if we're wearing the wrong size unless we look closely.
But my bras did feel uncomfortable because the wires seemed to poke on the sides. I got fitted at Intimacy, and that was where I found out I was a 28C. Since they didn't have any 28's, and only had very few 30's, they were willing to alter the 32A's down.
The alteration worked somewhat--it's a better fit than not altered but still not quite right. It's really hard to find 28's, especially below a D cup. Oh, I got an idea! I don't know if you've seen the ads or not, but there is the 'Kymaro bodyshaper'.
You may not need the shaping part of it, but it's got posture support panels. In the before and after, the women were standing up straighter, and the busts were lifted many of those women I imagine, were wearing the wrong size. The front part goes under your bust, so you can wear your on bra with it.
So if the shaper can provide proper support for women wearing wrong bra sizes, it might work for you, providing additional support. You may also try the Chic Shaper, which says it improves posture and lifts the breasts up.
But yeah, I totally sympathize with you, because although I've also done a lot of research on bra-fitting, and got some of my friends well-fitted, I haven't quite found the right bra myself.
I could not find this bra in the LaSenza online store, but a search got me some offers on ebay. I wanted to add that a lot of women do have v-shaped ribcages, sometimes dramatically so. I've done bra-fitting on about 10 friends now and and all except one had bigger ribcages than waists by ". My waist is " depending on how much I've had to eat and drink lately! My chest gets wider as it goes up I am 31" around under my arms above my boobs, where some people tell you to measure for your bra band size and in many women is about the same circ!
I think a tiny ribcage with the same measurement as the waist is more often seen on women with small shoulders proportionately. I would say it's more rare than anything IMO, based only on my sample size and eyeballing people. If I needed support I'd be looking for 26 bands. I will write letters on behalf of my small-ribcaged, larger-breasted friends though!
There must be millions of girls and women out there with " ribcages who are wearing ill-fitting 32s the number of American women who have heard of 30, much less 28, bands is tiny.
I didn't exactly mean that I thought most women weren't triangular. I think my wording was kind of confusing though Even I do have some difference, esp. For me, I think am a snug 26, or would wear a 24 in stretchier styles if such a size were made. At least that's my theory. Anyway, I mostly just wanted to illustrate that smaller than 28 isn't that strange of a size as some people would like to believe.
I can't believe I've probably been wearing the wrong bra size too all these years! Measuring around my ribcage, I found it to measure about I suppose, since I live in a small isolated town, when I was in the city I settled for the 32" band since it was the smallest size available at the store I was at I would love it if manufacturers started making smaller bra sizes and were more helpful with fitting.
I am still classed as "healthy weight" but have a 26" band now. I can't believe how so many of my friends who seem smaller than me claim to be wearing 32 or 34 inch backs.
Ways to measure need to be better publicised. I have tried writing to companies. I wrote to La Senza and the only reply I got was that they didn't think smaller backs would sell and they are "thinking about" introducing a 30 back. If we all bug them, maybe they'll eventually give in and make smaller still. I do not know if this will work for you, but the la senza low back converter see the following pictures http: I don't sew much, but with my expierence I can tell it would be ridiculously easy to buy a bra extender, cut it in two parts, and put it on a non stretching fabric so you can make the same principle as the pictures above.
Except the fabric won't be around your waist, but on your ribcage just under the bra. Material-wise the experiment won't cost much, and I don't know if you know someone with a bit sewing experience, but this is something an experienced seamstress could do within 20 minutes. There are a lot of posts connected to this thread that I have yet to read through, but I've read quite a few of them already and something that keeps popping to the front of my mind for the more "well-endowed" ladies is: What we are looking for is balance.
Properly executed exercises such as deadlifts, good mornings, and back hyperextensions would most likely help with the issue of breast-weight-induced back pain, even if the issue of a properly-fitting bra has yet to be resolved. My main issue is that the bottom of a bra can fit reasonably well when I first buy it, but the top of the band is loose enough for me to pull out by an inch under either armpit without stretching the fabric at all.
I'll try the next cup down, but my breasts will be literally spilling over the tops of the cups that way.
I measure 25" around, so I guess I'd be around a 26H- the only time I truly look like such a size is when I'm wearing a nice, snug corset. I wish they were appropriate for all occasions! Like I said I'm not a small woman and yet in Canada the smallest band size you can get is 36 and don't get me started on cup sizes larger than single D!!!
I'm a big fan of Freya's Lucy bra, and love it because I can order my size from bravissimo, although their shipping charges are deterant. I held them up to one of my 28 bras after wearing them for a few weeks so they had stretched slightly at that point the bands were pretty much the exact same size. I wrote them and asked about this, I was ecstatic when I got my 60G CH Onyx, for it was the smallest fitting bra ever delivered on my doorstep.
Anyhow, after wearing it for days it stretched about cm. So I stopped wearing it. But when I looked at it a week later, it was back to it's original size! And my reference material is exclusively tight Freya bands. Erin, Cindy When I mailed them about it I was told: You are first person with problem with band in CH Onyx.
Some information for future: I'm looking forward to this one, as a child waiting for Santa! I'm 5'8, but thin, and my waist is 24" and I have a 27" rib cage. I am not triangular, my upper torso just tapers more gradually due to my height. No one would classify me as "petite" either, I am simply too tall for that. FYI, small boobs do need support. It is very uncomfortable to run or walk fast in an unsupportive bra. It can be hard to find flattering, comfortable, well-fitting bras in small sizes too.
Visually, I look like what people imagine a B cup is, but because my rib cage is small, I need something like a 30C or 28D bra. I have a feeling this is far more common than people realize for tallish, thin, small-busted women. This is why bra fittings are important for ALL women, not just busty ones. I just recently came to the realization of my true bra size which is a 26C, and I had always been wearing 32's A or B My best friend measured at a 28B.
My sister and mom are definitely less than 30 inches as well. Now I feel depressed that I can't buy any bra that will fit me perfectly I just came to a realization after measuring that I am I'm a 26DD so I know how frustrating it is that you can't buy anything smaller than a 28 back! I emailed Bravissimo asking them which brands tend to come up small in the back so I could try them in a 28D and they were very helpful, they recommended Miss Mandalay and the Panache Tango bras.
I also asked if there was a possibility that they would start stocking 26 backs in the future and they told me that there are no plans for it at the moment but that they would certainly log my request. At least they listened to me: I measure as 29 under my breasts and a 28DD fits great. However, at pounds, which is small, I see numerous women who are a lot tinier than me, so I don't believe that a 28 bra band is extremely tiny - I consider myself small, but not tiny.
It makes me wonder, since there are so many tinier women than myself, why I fit into the smallest band size available How does that happen if I measure 29 around? So in some styles I would want a 26 band, because I find my 28 stretches out fairly quickly. Right now I am wearing a 28 bra on the tightest hook that I've worn less than a month. I just emailed Freya about providing 26 band sizes.
Everyone should email them then they can see how high the demand is. It's interesting to me that people don't realize the need for smaller band sizes. Measuring tightly I'm right under 34 inches and loosely I'm 36 inches and 36 bands ride up horribly.
There there people like my sister who are very slim and wears XXS shirts loosely, yet tried to claim she is actually something like a size 32B. I think a lot of the problem is misinformation to the consumers who think these smaller sizes are abnormal. I too am overweight US size 18 , and basically embarrassed to tell people I wear a band!
And even that is sometimes too loose I measure 33" , but I just can't bring myself to wear the smallest band size available in many stores! I have a friend who is 3" shorter than I, petite built and underweight, who also claims she is a 34"! So if you measure 75cm And no-one fixed it since. Aw man, I know how this goes. I'm 5'5, and at my current weight I have a My waist is People always talk about how tiny I am, so you must be super tiny if you're 5'10 and that small!
I'm a little heavier right now than I usually am but at my usual weight my rib cage goes down to 24" easily! Trying to find the right size, even in specialty lingerie shops, can suck. Until I started wearing the right bra size and stopped wearing baggy shirts people always thought I was flat chested. When I started dressing properly I was asked if I'd had work done! I'd just been flattening the girls against me and going against my curvy figure for years.
The right band and bra size is so important. I don't think there are many if any women who actually have ribcages below 25 inches. I think most women have about " between their waist and ribs, but women with very defined waists due to corsetting or naturally may have a inch difference!
I usually notice that more obese women tend to have waists the same size or sometimes even bigger than their ribcage, where as very thin may have a more significant difference between the waist and ribs.
At the end of the day, your ribcage can only go so small much like the pelvis but there is really no limit to how small a waist can go, especially with corsetting. You can have an 18" waist and 28" ribcage due to corsetting, I know I've seen it.
And for the record, my waist is " and my ribs are 28". Now even when I went down to a " waist, my ribs were still " and that was the smallest it would go. I'm 5'0" and 98 lbs and there is less than a 1" difference between my ribcage and my waist. I measure at a 26DD. Both are right around 26" so it isn't just overweight people who have waists the same size as their ribcage. On a side note: My hips are freaking 34" - 36"!
Just depends on my weight and when I'm at my normal of lbs, it's 36". I can't get bras OR jeans to even come close to fitting me. Of course, if you have quite a straight, narrow ribcage, you could potentially have very little difference between the two measurements and be thin like yourself. But I think those with more tapered ribcages will tend to notice a bigger difference between waist and ribs with weight loss as the waist becomes more defined.
I actually do have a severely tapered ribcage. I need about a 28" at my regular weight , but have a " waist. That actually causes its own fit problem, because I think I need a tapered band. If it fits properly at the bottom, it's too tight at the top. If it fits properly at the top, it rides up because the bottom is too big.
My measured bra size is supposed to be a 22d. I live in a small town so the smallest bra the local department store carries is a 32a. I usually get sports bras and wear the 32b or 32c bras inside the sports bra. I cut off the straps and safety pin the band into place. It works well until I need to wear a tank top or backless shirt. I've also been known to wear swimsuit tops because they're adjustable. I also have a small ribcage, I measure about around and should be wearing a size 26 D, but instead have had to settle for 30 C when i can find them and 32 B when i cant wearing the 32 B bras is just awful but its the only "standard" size that i can at least sort of fit into.
I'll try to email some manufacturers about this, because as you said, there are a lot more people with small rib cages than they seem to think and there is definitely a market for them. Mabye we small band sizes should create a web page on how to make your own bras and then we could all have a decent lovely fitting bra without having to wait for other companies to get around to it.
Or you could try the EM bras. They aren't that much more expensive than La Saneza. I am just experiencing the frustration of this. In fact, a 34DD is cup size equivalent to 28FF! Below are some sample measurements for a person who might wear these sizes:. As you can see, each DD cup represents not only a completely different set of measurements but also a completely different sized person.
However, I do want to note that some people choose to size up in the band for comfort or health reasons. For example, the person measuring a 28DD may actually prefer a 30 or 32 band, making the new cup size a 30D or a 32C. The Moral of the Story: Cup size cannot and should not be used as way of representing breast size.
All that matters is you find the bra size that fits, flatters, and feels comfortable to you! For more information on how band and cup sizing works, please check out the video below:. For what seems like forever, cup sizes have been regarded in this way: Note how the cup size continues to get smaller as the band size decreases.
Simply put, they follow a pretty straightforward formula although certain European brands will scale each cup size by centimeters instead: For example, all of these sizes are cup-size equivalents: All of these bras are cup size equivalents.
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Underwire Multi-part, full-coverage, underwire cups have a vertical center seam and are lined with power mesh along the bottom Luscious and soft, semi-sheer stretch lace. Bras for the sub ribcage- do you need a 26, 24, 22 band size? I have a confession to make. I have studied bra fitting for years, even started a blog on it, fitted multiple people. Some of Aerie's bras are known for having snug bands, too - however, they start at a 30 band (which can fit more like a 28 band), which might be a good candidate for alterations. M&S make 28 bands which you could alter, as well.